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Post #19869 Posted 11/19/2007 10:06:29 AM
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In early 19th century - and earlier - family history there are many times when a link might be established as either probable or only possible. As the idea of fostering is fairly recent, I only use adoption where children are taken over by other people (normally relatives) This means that the Foster link is not used and can be used to indicate where more work is needed. The use of a dotted line is useful for this and I change the colour to make it stand out.

I then realised that it should be possible to modify a Custom Skin to show the words 'probable' etc instead of Foster. I first hacked at Dictionary.xml but this is not enough and may be completely the wrong place, although a Report did emerge with no obvious changes.
I then found that Lang.vbs also contains Foster information but this is less direct ie seems to be using variables to construct the text.
Before I get completely confused, could you advise me which files need to be modified for this - or am I trying something that is not really going to work?
Post #19870 Posted 11/19/2007 10:09:40 AM


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Maybe the changes should be done in GenoPro rather than the report generator.

There are two posts somewhat similar to your suggestion: Probables or Possibles Child and/or adopted by father or adopted by mother.

Suggestions are welcome.

Post #19871 Posted 11/19/2007 10:30:02 AM
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Maybe the changes should be done in GenoPro rather than the report generator.

Agree with that. It has been raised at Uncertain Pedigree link.
However this is a temporary work-around as I assume it can not get into the final update of GenoPro2007.
Post #19876 Posted 11/20/2007 7:10:48 AM


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Maybe the changes should be done in GenoPro rather than the report generator.

I would also appreciate this possibility for indicating "possible/probable" children as I also use the census returns for my England research on line.

England only has the BMD Indexes whereas Scotland also has the images of the full BMD Entries showing parents and full dates and places at Scotlands People though this is not free.

I have many entries in my tree that are taken from Census images or extracts that I would like to indicate as "possible" with a broken line different from "adopted" or "foster"

I am preparing for my major Christmas update of my trees.

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Maybe the changes should be done in GenoPro rather than the report generator.

Agree with that. It has been raised at Uncertain Pedigree link.
However this is a temporary work-around as I assume it can not get into the final update of GenoPro2007.

A (interim?) solution could be to define two Custom Tags for Pedigree Links, CertaintyLevel & CertaintyParent. The first would have values 0=definite (default), 1=probably, 2=possibly, 3=perhaps. The second tag indicates about which parent the uncertainty exists : 0=father,  1=mother, 2=both.

These would be translated via the Dictionary when generating a Narrative Report. So we would have:

Jane's father is possibly John Doe and her mother is Mary Bloggs.

or if CertaintyParent=2 and level=1

Jane's father is probably John Doe and her mother is probably Mary Bloggs. 

On the parents page maybe the child's name under the Children subsection could be qualified with the uncertainty level e.g.

Jane Doe (John Doe is possibly her father)

It would be nice to show a probable link as a dotted line. But although GenoPro allows you to make a dotted line (i.e. foster link) solid, contrarily it does not allow a solid line to become dotted! It would be better if the 'solid line' check box in the Pedigree Link Properties was ticked when the line is solid by default, and allow the user to uncheck it to produce a dotted line when required.


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Ron (11/20/2007)
A (interim?) solution could be to define two Custom Tags for Pedigree Links, CertaintyLevel & CertaintyParent. The first would have values 0=definite (default), 1=probably, 2=possibly, 3=perhaps. The second tag indicates about which parent the uncertainty exists : 0=father,  1=mother, 2=both.

I haven't yet got my head round all these CustomTags so would prefer it to be a part of GenoPro with an option in the pedigree link drop down menu. It would be a lot simpler for the less technically minded like me.

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Ron's post gave me a couple ideas.  One would be to have another type of link named "possible child".  I am not sure if this link should be an upgrade of the current pedigree link, or a separate type of link possibly named "possible child" connecting two individuals directly rather than an individual to a family.

I am more in favor of a separate link because there is a lot of heavy code already under the current Pedigree Link.  The current pedigree link is the backbone to locate parents, children, siblings, ancestors and descendants.  Changing the internal structure of the current pedigree link is quite a task and risky.  On the other hand, a new type of object, similar to the pedigree link is much easier.  Also, it would be easier to query those "probable children" by just quering how many such links are connected to an individual.

Post #19893 Posted 11/21/2007 10:49:14 AM
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Since foster childs are not working properly (see my latest comment on this, without any reactions so far) I doubt whether any new kind of non-natural relation is going to work well. The problem lies in the timeline where the foster child is not properly handled.

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Ronald

Post #19897 Posted 11/21/2007 3:30:14 PM