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Post #12835 Posted 9/2/2006 7:11:21 PM
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While it might be optional for you ... it is not for me.  Not only that, graphical control over family member entry is the ONLY reason I use your software over ALL others.  I'm sure this is true for many others.

Anyway, I would like to ask you to please consider an auto-arrange option which places family members, regardless of age or date of birth, on the same generational levels. 

For example, all my brothers and sisters and first cousins on a single level, all my parents and their brothers and sisters and first cousins on the next level up, all my grandparents and all their brothers and sisters and first cousins on the next two levels above ... in other words, a generational approach.

Generation 1 === Grandparents and their brothers and sisters and first cousins all on this level ===
Generation 2 === Parents and their brothers and sisters and first cousins all on this level ===
Generation 3 === Children and their first Cousins all on this level ===

You could also include a vertical time-line on the left and right side that these family members could be auto-arranged to line up with based on dates of birth or death or marriage or whatever.

Post #15249 Posted 12/18/2006 2:19:23 AM


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G'day folks.  I've been using genopro, then genoprogold for years.  Its been a while since i visited the site and have been looking through some of the posts here.  I would just like to say to the guy on the first page of this topic........OVER SEVEN THOUSAND NAMES????????   Bugger me.  I want you to do my tree.  I was impressed when I got over 700.  I'm never gonna tell my mum about your tree.  Her expectations will go through the roof and my time will not be my own again.

Oh, and my only request with the autoarrange is that when it does cross over, can it show where the two lines cross or where two lines are overlapping.  sometimes it is hard to tell what is happening with 3 families have 20 children, all with different surnames and all on the same line.  it would be good to know what is real and what is overlap/cross.

Otherwise, love the program.

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In regard to gmb1994's request for generational autoarrange.

I have given it a great deal of though and can see no possible way to achieve this on a 2-dimensional plane.  Unless you want the various family lines to cross over all over the place.

I gave this a lot of thought when I first got into doing my tree and no matter how I tried, once you take in a brides/grooms parents the first time, the whole lot hits the proverbial fan.

The only way to make this happen is on a 3-dimensional grid where some form of generational 'fly thru' can move you between families while on a level 'flight plane'.

Picture hanging a bunch of coat hangers on coat hangers on coat hangers, all on your clothes line.  That is the only way to achieve it.

You can not display a 3-dimensional database on a 2 dimensional grid.  It just isnt possible.

Post #15260 Posted 12/18/2006 6:24:55 AM


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leonard1963 (12/18/2006)
Oh, and my only request with the autoarrange is that when it does cross over, can it show where the two lines cross or where two lines are overlapping.  sometimes it is hard to tell what is happening with 3 families have 20 children, all with different surnames and all on the same line.  it would be good to know what is real and what is overlap/cross.

It sounds from your post that you haven't gone through the v2.0 beta development process leading to the just released GenoPro 2007 (see www.genopro.com - having purchased GenoPro Gold you have a free upgrade). In this version there are 5 different line thicknesses to help distinguish where lines overlap, as well as the option of colouring the lines.

Post #16057 Posted 1/27/2007 9:50:22 PM
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Yes, I have also abandoned the auto-arrange feechur. Once I reached a size threshold and started using the text boxes, this became unsuitable anyway.

Hey, is there a way to import objects (ie. images and the like) into the text boxes..? In word and other editors, text boxes hold images.
Post #16071 Posted 1/28/2007 8:37:01 AM


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egriffin (1/27/2007)
Hey, is there a way to import objects (ie. images and the like) into the text boxes..? In word and other editors, text boxes hold images.

Not at the moment.  Future versions of GenoPro will be capable to display images in the family tree / genogram.

Post #16420 Posted 2/18/2007 2:47:16 AM


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This will be changed for version 2.1.

One more example to see and understand how ugly looks the autoarrange for big trees.


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Alfi (2/18/2007)
One more example to see and understand how ugly looks the autoarrange for big trees.

I have seen a lot worse.

Post #16535 Posted 2/25/2007 5:07:03 PM
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Hello, just bought GenoPro and I love it.

I'd like to suggest a sort of "clean up" form of auto arrange that doesn't calculate any major changes in layout, just tidies up the lines, and spaces things out a bit. almost like snapping everything to the grid.
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C Good (2/25/2007)
I'd like to suggest a sort of "clean up" form of auto arrange that doesn't calculate any major changes in layout, just tidies up the lines, and spaces things out a bit. almost like snapping everything to the grid.

It sounds like something I wrote somewhere on the forum...

What I was looking for is a way to :

a) predefine lenght/height of family line... to be arranged/fitted to grid... (I.e. default relationship partner distance 10 horizontal units...).

b) sometimes when moving family members/family line  they get detached... it's nicely depicted with red dots... would it be possible that in such occasions line stretches and connects two points?! (i.e. it occurs mostly when rearranging multiple marriages...)




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