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Chaoswarp

Post #8865 Posted 10/12/2005 12:29:19 PM

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I was wondering about some notations i found on some family tree information ....

ex #1

Andrew LUTTRELL (5º B. Irnham)

what does the 5º B. mean?

ex #2

Humphrey LEE of Langley (1º Bt.)

what does the 1º Bt mean?

ex #3

Walter WROTTESLEY (Sir Knight)

John TALBOT (Sir)

is there a difference between Sir and Sir knight?

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Post #8874 Posted 10/13/2005 4:31:27 AM

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Hi, I guess, that 5th Baron, 1st Baronet, etc. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baronet).

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Chaoswarp

Post #8885 Posted 10/13/2005 9:20:34 AM

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ok .. so what is the difference between say a 1st baron and a 5th?

Howard53

Post #8887 Posted 10/13/2005 1:11:31 PM

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It's a generational thing. When one baron dies the barony passes (through the male line usually) to the next surviving heir: ie 1st --> 2nd --> 3rd, etc.

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Post #8892 Posted 10/13/2005 6:42:44 PM

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ahhh thanks ... so any clue on if there is a difference between a sir and a sir kight?

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Post #8896 Posted 10/14/2005 7:48:01 AM

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It is probably just a mis-transcription of a title - for information on knights and their titles see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knighthood

There is a non-heraldic title of 'Sir Knight' used by the Knights Templar organisation http://www.templarhistory.com/index.html but this is probably not what is being referenced.

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Post #8897 Posted 10/14/2005 8:59:34 AM

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wow thanks for the helpful links

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